tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post797920791996822128..comments2008-07-12T10:09:32.306-07:00Katiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16512555424018763763noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-90280690342222493742008-07-12T01:33:00.000-07:002008-07-12T01:33:00.000-07:00Sigh... ALL my drawings are generic.Joel Bryanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17723952510039418615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-22494668726454611722008-06-26T17:32:00.000-07:002008-06-26T17:32:00.000-07:00I agree with what you're saying. When I'm drawing girls, I try to not stick with that same tried and true formula and work on getting the uniqueness of that person and what makes them look they way they do. <BR/>It just gets boring when all your pretty girls look the same, they're kind of robotish.Skidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08302261397328434099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-75532446789779795752008-06-23T08:34:00.000-07:002008-06-23T08:34:00.000-07:00Katie, I absolutely love your specific girl designs. There are so many different kinds of beauty, and so many different girls! (Yea, I'm one of those guys who <I>really</I> love women). Awesome post, Katie! :DMitch Khttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11645009912553755049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-46427917761481805182008-06-23T02:02:00.000-07:002008-06-23T02:02:00.000-07:00I have a hard time digging myself out of the generic hole without the designs looking just plain ugly. (not saying yours are, just mine)<BR/><BR/>and when it comes to getting down a specific likeness, I never know what features to exaggerate. <BR/><BR/>Maybe you (or Kali, or John or anyone with design sensibilities I can trust) could touch on that a bit? thats probbaly one thats really hard to put into words though.Kylehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15964828510022436192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-85158292945931167472008-06-22T18:59:00.000-07:002008-06-22T18:59:00.000-07:00great post, katie! very insightfulClintonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07038541328163339251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-46969517712007450712008-06-22T12:35:00.000-07:002008-06-22T12:35:00.000-07:00Thanks guys! *Phew* I'm glad everyone was ok with the post and didn't think I was being a jerk.<BR/><BR/>Sean, Custom, lastangelman- Yeah I love Groo, and Sergio Aagones! A lot of people have been asking if he's an influence on Skadi- he definitely is! :)<BR/><BR/>Pete- Wow, thank you so much!! I'm flattered and flabbergasted! <BR/><BR/>Jenny- I'd love to have an egg cream with you!!! Lets go have cartoon theory and story night!<BR/><BR/>Pedro- loved what you said about "generic with appeal." I could do a whole other post on that subject!<BR/><BR/>Bill- yeah, I agree, that is a horribly sad thing that girls would ask to be drawn "normal." I could do another post on that too...<BR/><BR/>LFW- oh hush, there's nothing crappy about your art in any way. You're awesome and an inspiration!!! :D<BR/><BR/>Jorge- LOL!! Ha ha ha, the idea of a "cartoonist rock star" is pretty hilarious. Like I saunter into a hotel room and everyone's expecting me to smash stuff up but instead I just sit silently inside and never come out and go about my regular boring routine.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again everyone!Katiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16512555424018763763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-76244794854659548792008-06-22T09:28:00.000-07:002008-06-22T09:28:00.000-07:00J's right. Keep it free.<BR/><BR/>"Share what you've got, and you'll never want".<BR/><BR/>Somebody said that once.<BR/><BR/>- trevor.trevorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554109671909765241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-9784413335401777622008-06-22T03:46:00.000-07:002008-06-22T03:46:00.000-07:00This is one post to keep in mind!<BR/>I always struggle with generic design because I also like the real cute generic designs if they are done as masterfully as Aurora for example. And that does not go simply for girls but for dogs (Pongo, Perdi, the Labrador), cats (Figaro) etc.<BR/>But in my own work I'd like to come up with more specific designs (observing people around me as well as actors and politicians) and as soon as it gets cartoony I come back to generic (sometimes on purpose, most of the time by accident). The worst thing may be that some of my friends prefer the generic stuff...<BR/><BR/>That's why I'm always in awe when seeing your doodles and designs.<BR/>I was very glad that you didn't denigrate generic per se. Keep up the good work!Oswald Itenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09560644491496569393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-27842535575805289192008-06-21T23:59:00.000-07:002008-06-21T23:59:00.000-07:00Holy, this is the definitive article on this subject. This post should be passed dowm from generation to genertion and made into a pamphlet for all animation studios to read and study.<BR/><BR/>Katie Rice, how does it feel to be a fuckin' rock star?<BR/><BR/>Must be fucking nice!Jorge Garridohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06773761831300035917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-50019168683123361952008-06-21T22:52:00.000-07:002008-06-21T22:52:00.000-07:00I say, keep the advice free! Free I say!J.http://www.blogger.com/profile/17723624683357793830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-10457894041105640462008-06-21T22:06:00.000-07:002008-06-21T22:06:00.000-07:00WOW, that is so well written. Ranting bloggers everywhere could learn a thing or two about composing proper essays that make sense.<BR/><BR/>So I've read all this, and it makes perfect sense to me, I also realize now that I am such a crappy artist, as I've fallen into the safe routine of generic characters (guys and girls).<BR/><BR/>You're also right about your friends, they are cute, but it's their unique features that make them cute and human and not plastic blad dolls.<BR/><BR/>thanks for taking the time to write this, It was so very helpful and eye-opening<BR/><BR/>cheers to you<BR/><BR/>your pal<BR/><BR/>-LFWLFWhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02506039457525816190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-13188556828020588792008-06-21T08:57:00.000-07:002008-06-21T08:57:00.000-07:00Great post, I can only sit here and agree with everything. What I find funny about the whole generic vs specific debate is how it seems that everything is pushing for girls to be more generic in real life. I draw caricatures at Universal and I can't think of how many times young girls have asked me to just draw them "normal". I know there's self esteem issues involved there, but I can't help think if there's more too it than that.<BR/><BR/>Again this post was filled with all kinds of awesome. Hope to see more.Bill Drastal Blog Mode!!http://www.blogger.com/profile/18082103379084950719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-23704620732133920552008-06-21T06:35:00.000-07:002008-06-21T06:35:00.000-07:00Thank you so much for taking the time to write this wonderful post.<BR/>This is just amazingly useful!<BR/>Really hoping deep in me that you will be able to do some more in the future...Susihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05442586007918564531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-64884117803159623782008-06-21T01:01:00.000-07:002008-06-21T01:01:00.000-07:00Awesome! Thanks for all the advice, it's certainly valid points made! And I don't think you've offended most artists. But I don't think anyone should get "offended" by anything like this, even though I know some people can have a tendancy to be touchy about things.IZAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03578830590405067809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-20316918298676663812008-06-20T20:22:00.000-07:002008-06-20T20:22:00.000-07:00Yeah this is something I like thinking about, but never thought of sharing. Thank you so much for the insight, Katie! I've always loved generic, but generic with appeal. Kinda what John has posted on his blog with the Hot Stuff comics. And you're right, I think artists have their own interesting views as to how they see generic and uniqueness and the combination of the two. I hope a lot of people take into consideration about this.<BR/><BR/>Thanks again, Katie!Pedro Vargashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08439417631526024175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-7287192954393396112008-06-20T14:29:00.000-07:002008-06-20T14:29:00.000-07:00this is the kind of advice you should charge money for!Marlo Meekinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15142314291470824200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-2854330620984321572008-06-20T08:12:00.000-07:002008-06-20T08:12:00.000-07:001.)Cool entry, this like a John K or Eddie F blog entry. Very instructive, explanatory and entertaining.<BR/>2.)Are you a fan of Sergio Aragones Groo The Conqueror? I noticed there's a touch of Segio's style in this comic, but I also see styles reminiscent to me of John Halas and his wife Joy Batchelor who did a cartoon called DoDo, The Kid From Outer Space.lastangelmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13825794418150920412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-21458545793687543012008-06-20T06:10:00.000-07:002008-06-20T06:10:00.000-07:00yeah, this really is such a great post!! And Jenny's right, your "generics" are some of the coolest generics I've ever seen... but still, I see what you mean, in comparision to your sooper awesome styley drawrrrrings!! Great post Katie!!Kristy Gordonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13990972524270965250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-81554315657931639712008-06-20T04:03:00.000-07:002008-06-20T04:03:00.000-07:00Hey I was watching El Tigre this morning, yeah the new Episodes are on at 6:30 a.m. on the eastcoast... lame still great, and I saw your little you painting a picture as Manny and Frida went through the girls to take to the dance. She was so cute, anyway I love the Skadi comic it reminds me of Groo, just with no words and a cute betty running about throwing herself in fray after fray with many different people, animals and what not. Please stay alive and healthy!Custom Coasterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12282624552614744730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-22393131707318367592008-06-20T00:24:00.000-07:002008-06-20T00:24:00.000-07:00I really appreciate your thoughts on cartoons and art in general. Also love the free flowing style of your work. The way you throw down your drawings are great.FRANK M HANSENhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09137192738693906793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-71833337948297094112008-06-19T23:19:00.000-07:002008-06-19T23:19:00.000-07:00This was well worth your time & work to put it all down...it's great to read your thought processes(sp?)and theories. Especially when they are accompanied/illustrated by oodles of cool drawings! Eye strudel!<BR/><BR/>Based on longtime viewing of your work I have my own theories about your style-philosophy. You are <B>tops</B> in my book but I differ with some of your assertions-in a <I>good</I> way. At least I think so. In a nutshell I don't agree that your "generics" are truly as generic as you think they are, although I get what you're saying(you explain it very thoroughly).<BR/> One of these days I'll hash it out with you over an egg cream at Canters, I hope. : )Jenny Lerewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06668171465801333811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-52176080166618747032008-06-19T22:14:00.000-07:002008-06-19T22:14:00.000-07:00I've visited your blog a few times before, just been too shy to post! Anyhow, this was really helpful to read! I'll probably be thinking about it everytime I draw now, and that's a good thing! :)savvy weasleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07376388502623882756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-11707247224493021002008-06-19T15:10:00.000-07:002008-06-19T15:10:00.000-07:00Wow what an great post. Nice to read how you think on this.<BR/><BR/>You should make more posts about this.Mitch Lhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03748196647137310735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-41278823235643861772008-06-19T11:50:00.000-07:002008-06-19T11:50:00.000-07:00Eee, great post Katie!! I just can't get over how much I love your drawings (and the colours you use when you use colour)!!Kristy Gordonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13990972524270965250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14506696.post-84417050244943102952008-06-18T23:49:00.000-07:002008-06-18T23:49:00.000-07:00:D I'm just plain speechless. Your rock and your theory about unique vs. genericness rocks!!! A fun read and something that will make me think when drawing new character designs. Lookout bland and genericness, Katie is here to change people's perceptions of it forever with her unique perspective and feelings in her adorable, cute and funny drawings!!!Sean Worshamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02847304253885335658noreply@blogger.com